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  • 1.  WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 03, 2019 02:31 PM
    ​Hey NAV Users,

    What are you using for WMS? And why? What's good and what's bad?

    Appreciate your input...Thank you.

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    Kim Dallefeld
    Kim@Dallefeld.com
    Dallefeld Consulting, LLC
    Member of Dynamics Consulting Group
    Ft. Worth, TX
    2019 NAVUG Board of Advisors
    Past NAVUG Board Chairman
    NAVUG Programming Committee
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  • 2.  RE: WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 04, 2019 11:47 AM
    We went with Sikich's WMS. We had demo's of the major players for our 3 Warehouse Managers and that was what they chose.

    It is not a bad system, but we did need a lot of customization. It easily cost triple the original quote and 5 times as long as Sikich quoted.

    In all fairness there was a lot of scope creep. Most of the scope creep was well worth it. Our receiving department quality measurements are done in the handheld. That eliminated a lot of data entry errors due to penmanship alone. We also interfaced our scales so that our employees can use the handheld to request the weight reading from the floor scale. HUGE time saver. We used to print tickets and someone had to key in the weights.

    We also do all Subcontractor shipping and receiving from the handheld. Another huge timesaver.

    My biggest complaint is printing. The handhelds send the print jobs for both labels and documents to the Job Queue. It works most of the time. However, when it messes up, it is a huge job to straighten it out. HUGE JOB!

    Overall, the question is whether you can live with out of the box functionality. If you can, it is a good system. The good news is that there are a lot of new features and functionality that got debugged on our dime.

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    Gregory Alford
    Director of Technical Resources
    Tri Star Metals LLC
    Carol Stream IL
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  • 3.  RE: WMS

    SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 04, 2019 12:03 PM
    ​We use Lanham ACE Warehousing. We had an external third party WMS, but had too many issues with interfaces and large cost on modifications. We chose ACE Warehousing because it is inside of NAV and can be easily customized for our needs. We currently have two distribution centers, ship around 200,000 cartons a day, and are currently satisfied with our solution.
    We are on NAV 2009 classic and are in the middle of a reimplementation to NAV 2018. All of our WMS customizations ported over with minimal issues. I did notice a lot of the customizations that we did were also in the new version of ACE.
    We also use Loftware for Labeling and Argent for LMS.

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    Joseph Flynn
    Sr. Dynamics NAV Developer
    Gold Star Foods INC
    Ontario CA
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  • 4.  RE: WMS

    Posted Apr 04, 2019 04:29 PM
    ​We use Manhattan SCALE with integration to NAV. Shipments and receipts are integrated via flat files back and forth, but we also use some stored procedures and SCALE Web Service functionality for some other cool features.

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    Jason Luchka
    Senior Enterprise Applications Analyst
    FFR Merchandising, Inc.
    Twinsburg OH
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  • 5.  RE: WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 10, 2019 01:30 PM
    ​And how well are the system reconciled? Are you finding that they stay synchronized?

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    Kim Dallefeld
    Kim@Dallefeld.com
    Dallefeld Consulting, LLC
    Member of Dynamics Consulting Group
    Ft. Worth, TX
    2019 NAVUG Board of Advisors
    Past NAVUG Board Chairman
    NAVUG Programming Committee
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  • 6.  RE: WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 10, 2019 02:34 PM
    ​The nice thing (assuming you do not need a full fledged WMS) about InsightWorks and Lanham is that they work on top of NAV, so they are really just a ront-end interface to NAV.  There's nothing to sync (unless working offline).

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    Mars Fishcare
    Chalfont PA
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  • 7.  RE: WMS

    Posted Apr 11, 2019 09:02 AM
    ​Kim - I think you may have been asking how well NAV and SCALE stay synched up in our implementation.

    The general answer is that overall it's pretty good. We do see some issues from time to time.

    The two biggest issues are as follows:
    1. Since we are passing flat files back and forth between NAV and SCALE, we have found instances where SCALE is not picking up the files fast enough. A custom stored procedure that evaluates shipment/receipt status in SCALE then "unlocks" the Warehouse Shipment/Receipt Lines in NAV so that an aggressive user can reopen the order. SCALE then picks up the file, but later a new Warehouse Shipment/Receipt is created and that is also sent to SCALE so that the same source document is now in SCALE multiple times. We usually catch it, but sometimes a double shipment can occur. Inherent receipt control processes limit the chances of double receiving. It has been a desire to move to away from flat file integration for a few years now, but other priorities and commitments have prevented that from happening. I believe the desire is to move to a web service call that creates the shipment/receipt directly in SCALE by way of JSON.
    2. Due to business process requirements, we have SCALE informing NAV to post shipments at the time of Ship Confirm. However, SCALE does not remove the inventory until Load Confirm. What this means is that NAV will relieve inventory at the time the shipment is posted, while SCALE will technically still show that inventory sitting on the dock until the Load is confirmed when the driver picks up. If a user fails to confirm all loads before Saturday AM, a scheduled stored procedure adjusts the inventory in NAV to match the inventory in SCALE, and thus could adjust in inventory that was previously shipped in NAV (but not Load Confirmed in SCALE). If this isn't caught, it will typically resolve itself a week later during the next automatic reconciliation, otherwise users manually correct NAV.

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    Jason Luchka
    Senior Enterprise Applications Analyst
    siffron
    Twinsburg OH
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  • 8.  RE: WMS

    SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 05, 2019 07:43 AM
    ​We recommend to our clients Insight Works.  A lot of features and functionality for a very competitive price.  The implementations went very well and I appreciate that there is a lot of user customization that can be done via the menus.  And when we did require some development customization, the company was very easy to work with on them.

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    Paul Silvani
    General Manager
    Velosio
    Chicago IL
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  • 9.  RE: WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 10, 2019 01:32 PM
    ​Can you speak to how well the two systems stay synchronized?

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    Kim Dallefeld
    Kim@Dallefeld.com
    Dallefeld Consulting, LLC
    Member of Dynamics Consulting Group
    Ft. Worth, TX
    2019 NAVUG Board of Advisors
    Past NAVUG Board Chairman
    NAVUG Programming Committee
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  • 10.  RE: WMS

    Posted Apr 10, 2019 01:55 PM
    Edited by Greg Miles Apr 10, 2019 01:56 PM
    Good Afternoon,

    In reference to the WMS to NAV connectivity, the HighJump integration framework is configured to communicate directly with both the HighJump WMS and Dynamics NAV. Systems. This is accomplished through the mapping of data sent via web services to each system. This allows both systems to maintain accuracy and share information very efficiently.  It is recommended that a company works with either HighJump directly or a Microsoft Partner that has both knowledge and experience with both systems and the connectivity. 

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    Greg Miles
    Marketing Manager
    iCepts Technology Group, Inc.
    Middletown, PA 17057
    gmiles@icepts.com
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  • 11.  RE: WMS

    SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 10, 2019 05:12 PM
    Kim,

    I believe this is one of the advantages of the Insight system.
    Basically it is the NAV data which it is using.
    Best is to think of Insight as a keyboard or a different way of entering data directly into NAV.
    The only piece of data which is different is if you are going to use license plating.  That sits outside of NAV and we are really not seeing that many issues with it.

    Feel free to call with any questions you might have about it  312.254.0808


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    Paul Silvani
    General Manager
    Velosio
    Chicago IL
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  • 12.  RE: WMS

    Posted Apr 08, 2019 08:49 AM
    Edited by Greg Miles Apr 08, 2019 08:49 AM
    Good Morning Kim,

    We have noticed more companies having interest in a "best-in-breed" WMS system for NAV to help meet their complex inventory challenges in the warehouse.  HighJump Warehouse Edge (formerly AccellosOne WMS) has many advanced inventory management functionalities along with a seamless integration to Dynamics NAV.

    It's not though, a lower end solution, and could be too much horsepower for a what a company needs.  However, it just depends on their business requirements, their unique inventory needs, what sort of inventory they are carrying, ect.

    Sincerely,

    Greg Miles
    Marketing Manager
    iCepts Technology Group, Inc.
    610-579-9159
    gmiles@icepts.com
    www.icepts.com

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  • 13.  RE: WMS

    SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 08, 2019 01:50 PM
    Echoing what Paul Silvani above had to say about Insight Works for a WMS solution

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    Matt McDowell
    Supply Chain Analyst
    Valley Blades Limited
    Waterloo ON
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  • 14.  RE: WMS

    Posted Apr 09, 2019 04:08 PM
    @Greg Miles It has been my experience with HighJump and Dynamics NAV that there is not an add-on/connector to link the two. Have you discovered or created something to simplify this process?   ​

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    Michael Intravartolo
    Marketing Manager
    Solution Systems, Inc.
    Rolling Meadows, IL
    michael@solsyst.com
    847-590-3000
    www.solsyst.com
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  • 15.  RE: WMS

    SILVER CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 09, 2019 09:14 AM
    Hello Kim,

    Here at Fashion Angels Enterprises, we have been using Lanham Ace Warehousing with e-Ship and e-Receive.   Once they are all set up, they work nearly flawlessly.  The interface on the scanguns and on the desktops is reminiscent of the 1980's green screen interfaces and it uses a lot of line commands, but these are all available on bar codes, so people can just scan the command they want rather than remember the line commands.   The interface may seem a bit "clunky" in a Windows environment, but it simply works.   We have been using the Lanham solutions for over four years and they work.

    In a former life, I worked with High Jump software in a Great Plains environment and it was awesome.   This was back in 2000 and it was a great solution then, and I would imagine it is even better now, but it was definitely not the cheapest solution out there, just the best at the time.

    At our last NAVUG chapter meeting, we had a demo of InSight Works and I would definitely suggest checking that out.   I think that if we were in the market to change our WMS, I would definitely go that route.   The handheld scanner options where great as well as the overall interface was very intuitive.   The web interface options made getting info from anywhere and any device very easy.   Our Director of Distribution and Warehousing has been asking me how much work it would be to switch over as it is a great and cost effective system.   I'm reluctant because I am not sure how much work would be involved in the conversion and the ability to retain all of our historical records in such a conversion.

    Good luck in your search for the best solution for your situation!

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    Steven Hoag
    I.T. Manager
    Fashion Angels Enterprises, LLC
    Milwaukee WI
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  • 16.  RE: WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 09, 2019 12:52 PM
    Kim -


    The task of evaluating add on software solutions I think falls into to two types - solutions that look, feel and run inside of NAV/BC and those that are external with integrations to NAV/BC. Best of breed solutions typically will be the later – an external solution with an integration to NAV/BC. Here I have listed a few key items that should be considered specific to finding a Warehouse Solution.

    Here are some of the specific items and key functionality dealing with Warehousing to consider

    Warehouse Solutions that look, feel and run inside of NAV/BC

    Users will adapt quickly – navigation is familiar

    Solutions typically utilize the same Warehouse processes and work flows as in base NAV/BC

    NAV/BC transactions done manually in NAV/BC available on a handheld

    Warehouse Shipments, Warehouse Picks (Sales Orders, Production Orders, Transfers)

    Handheld Re-class journals, Movement Journals

    Supports Bins, Serial and Lot Tracking on a handheld using NAV/BC base processes

    Solution should support all levels of NAV/BC Warehouse from simply bins to Directed Put-Away

    Inventory is dynamic – Receipts, shipments, movements, consumption is real time as it happens

    If using NAV/BC reservations will be maintained with the Warehouse solution

    If using NAV/BC Lot and Serial tracking is maintained with the Warehouse solution

    If Partial Shipments are required, the Warehouse solution uses NAV/BC logic to handle partial shipment

    Assuming the Warehouse solution supports your current NAV/BC Warehouse setup and usage what additional functionality does the solution provide that might help. License Plating is something base NAV/BC does not provide as an example

    If possible, the solution is written or being rewritten to use Extensions - NAV/BC recommending as a Cloud must have

    Warehouse Solutions External with integrations to NAV/BC

    External Warehouse Solutions will provide more functionality, and this may ultimately be the reason the solution is selected. Some of the functionality that may be needed that is only found in an External Warehouse solution:

                    Warehouse Optimization functionality (where and how setup the warehouse better)

                    Outbound dock management

                    Outbound Trailer and Yard Management

                    Load Planning and Optimization

                    Functionality to optimize picking methods

                    More extensive Rule driven put-away

                    Inbound dock management

                    Inbound trailer and yard management

                    Functionality to help optimize use of warehouse space  

    An external Warehouse solution will not use NAV/BC Warehouse functionality - Warehouse Shipments, Picks etc. being replaced with similar processes in the external solution. This can be a positive if NAV/BC Warehousing is not providing what the company needs. Also, the external Warehouse system may have its own Sales order, purchase order and Production processes that will need to also have information passing back to keep data in sync.

    Integrations to NAV/BC are provided for Inventory, Customers, Vendors, Sales Orders and Production Order as an example to provide information to the Warehouse solution. Inventory in NAV may not match inventory in the Warehouse solution – affected by the integration – how often is inventory data updated in NAV/BC which is key for NAV/BC Planning worksheets.

    Lastly understand how reserved inventory is handled, Lot and Serial tracking and partial shipments are handled between NAV/BC and the external Warehouse system if you intend to use - these sometimes are complex integrations.

    Best Regards



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    John Grant
    Senior Application Consultant
    Innovia Consulting
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  • 17.  RE: WMS

    TOP CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 10, 2019 01:44 PM
    ​John, you should do a session at Summit on this topic...you already have the outline!!

    Do you have any analysis that you've done that you would be willing to share?

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    Kim Dallefeld
    Kim@Dallefeld.com
    Dallefeld Consulting, LLC
    Member of Dynamics Consulting Group
    Ft. Worth, TX
    2019 NAVUG Board of Advisors
    Past NAVUG Board Chairman
    NAVUG Programming Committee
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  • 18.  RE: WMS

    GOLD CONTRIBUTOR
    Posted Apr 11, 2019 06:42 AM
    We are using a product from Beck called bcMobile. Overall we have been happy with it. We use scanners with a windows interface that is easy to use. They also have an android version now too. We use it for Picks, Puts, Moving, and Inventory. There are options for ship and receive but we do not use those functions on the handheld. bcMobile is working direct with NAV. It connects via a web service to process transactions using NAV standard functionality.

    To put our environment into perspective, our NAV is not setup with full WMS. We have everything enabled except Directed Pick/Put.

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    Jeffrey Mantz
    Vice President
    Zefon International
    Ocala FL
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